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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://www.befogged.co.uk/2009/10/on-daughtering/#comment-163</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 14:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cat
Thanks for posting a comment on my blog. The slip came with a dress from Boden. I have hardlyw orn the dress but wear the slip all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cat<br />
Thanks for posting a comment on my blog. The slip came with a dress from Boden. I have hardlyw orn the dress but wear the slip all the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ma F</title>
		<link>http://www.befogged.co.uk/2009/10/on-daughtering/#comment-162</link>
		<dc:creator>Ma F</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 08:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cat, What a moving account which has enabled me to see a different way of 'daughtering' to the life of daughtering I've experienced.
I guess my own experience is of feeling responsibility foisted upon me for my parents welfare, even from childhood.  It's been a heavy load and one I now find at the very time I should be shouldering it (when they're nearly 80 and just over 80) I'm so profoundly tired of it I just want to escape it. 

It's a strange thing, when living through it, I didn't have the clarity of vision to push-back the responsibility from myself back to my parents, but simply accepted it to be my role. It must have been right if it was expected of me from my parents right? So I made myself available often taking short notice time off work when needed to ferry them about, to support mum through her many operations when dad abdicated this role, the list is long. 
It's not just the physical support that steals your time and energy but far more of a challenge is coping with the emotional baggage.
I've woken up to it too late to recognise there could have been a different way, a healthier way, a fairer way.
It's not been all 'one-way'. My mum has been needy its true but she's given a lot back too.  But in terms of core responsibility, ours has been a topsy turvy relationship with the children expected to be the adults.

Thanks Cat for this piece in your blog.  It's enlightening and helped me to evalulate things with the perspective you offer too.  And I promise you this. You'll never get pressure from me on the grandchildren subject! ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cat, What a moving account which has enabled me to see a different way of &#8216;daughtering&#8217; to the life of daughtering I&#8217;ve experienced.<br />
I guess my own experience is of feeling responsibility foisted upon me for my parents welfare, even from childhood.  It&#8217;s been a heavy load and one I now find at the very time I should be shouldering it (when they&#8217;re nearly 80 and just over 80) I&#8217;m so profoundly tired of it I just want to escape it. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a strange thing, when living through it, I didn&#8217;t have the clarity of vision to push-back the responsibility from myself back to my parents, but simply accepted it to be my role. It must have been right if it was expected of me from my parents right? So I made myself available often taking short notice time off work when needed to ferry them about, to support mum through her many operations when dad abdicated this role, the list is long.<br />
It&#8217;s not just the physical support that steals your time and energy but far more of a challenge is coping with the emotional baggage.<br />
I&#8217;ve woken up to it too late to recognise there could have been a different way, a healthier way, a fairer way.<br />
It&#8217;s not been all &#8216;one-way&#8217;. My mum has been needy its true but she&#8217;s given a lot back too.  But in terms of core responsibility, ours has been a topsy turvy relationship with the children expected to be the adults.</p>
<p>Thanks Cat for this piece in your blog.  It&#8217;s enlightening and helped me to evalulate things with the perspective you offer too.  And I promise you this. You&#8217;ll never get pressure from me on the grandchildren subject! <img src='http://www.befogged.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: E-J</title>
		<link>http://www.befogged.co.uk/2009/10/on-daughtering/#comment-161</link>
		<dc:creator>E-J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whoa! Sorry about the length of that comment ... How much do I owe you for the therapy session? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa! Sorry about the length of that comment &#8230; How much do I owe you for the therapy session? <img src='http://www.befogged.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: E-J</title>
		<link>http://www.befogged.co.uk/2009/10/on-daughtering/#comment-160</link>
		<dc:creator>E-J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've been preparing (not very successfully, but let's just say it's been a constant feature in my mental landscape) for this kind of thing for many years, as my mum and dad, although not at all old by today's standards, were a decade older than most of my friends' parents, and my dad especially has not been in good health for some years ... and as my grandmother said to me when I was 9 or 10 years old (thanks, Nan!) "An only child is a lonely child, and when your parents are gone, you'll have no-one." Well, my husband and daughter are very far from being no-one! - but in terms of caring for aging parents, there was an element of truth to her words, because it does mean that I am destined to have that role all to myself, and my mother and father do NOT make it easy! 

I understand completely your appreciation of the way it is changing your relationship to your parents into something more rounded and mature: it's something I experienced last month when we spent a long w/e with my parents, doing chores for them (cleaning, shopping, cooking) after my mother came out of hospital with pneumonia. For a few days, they allowed me to show that I am not still 4 years old, that I can be relied upon to do grown-up things, that I do not have to be protected from everything and needn't remain the last person they would think of calling upon for help, which sadly tends to be the case. They are terrible at accepting help from anyone, but especially from me. A few years ago, my dad was banned from revealing to me that he'd had a minor stroke because my mother thought it would upset me. Another time, he was in hospital with bleeding and suspected cancer and it was 4 days before I could reach either of them on the phone: I had no idea why nobody was answering. She'd been at home most of that time, but thought it best simply not to get in touch with me at all.

The grandchildren thing was always different for me, because of my mother's inability to communicate things in a straightforward way. She always impressed on me how much of a burden her sister's grandchildren were to her - "How can they [my cousins] DO that to her, going and having more??" - and gave every indication that she thought I wasn't a capable adult and that children would likely never be part of the picture anyway. When I got pregnant, my grandmother whispered to me when my mum was out of the room: "Your mother's always moaning, 'They're never going to give me any grandchildren' ...!"

Anyway ... Now my mum is recovered from the pneumonia, it seems she's back to her normal controlling, overbearing self, but I'm thinking maybe that will change as she and my dad grow less able to do stuff for themselves. It will HAVE to change, eventually. And relying on others, even family, is my father's worst nightmare: when I was a kid, he used to tell me he wanted me to "put a bullet in his head" when he reached the age of 60. He is 80 now. ;-) Oh boy, am I in for a ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been preparing (not very successfully, but let&#8217;s just say it&#8217;s been a constant feature in my mental landscape) for this kind of thing for many years, as my mum and dad, although not at all old by today&#8217;s standards, were a decade older than most of my friends&#8217; parents, and my dad especially has not been in good health for some years &#8230; and as my grandmother said to me when I was 9 or 10 years old (thanks, Nan!) &#8220;An only child is a lonely child, and when your parents are gone, you&#8217;ll have no-one.&#8221; Well, my husband and daughter are very far from being no-one! - but in terms of caring for aging parents, there was an element of truth to her words, because it does mean that I am destined to have that role all to myself, and my mother and father do NOT make it easy! </p>
<p>I understand completely your appreciation of the way it is changing your relationship to your parents into something more rounded and mature: it&#8217;s something I experienced last month when we spent a long w/e with my parents, doing chores for them (cleaning, shopping, cooking) after my mother came out of hospital with pneumonia. For a few days, they allowed me to show that I am not still 4 years old, that I can be relied upon to do grown-up things, that I do not have to be protected from everything and needn&#8217;t remain the last person they would think of calling upon for help, which sadly tends to be the case. They are terrible at accepting help from anyone, but especially from me. A few years ago, my dad was banned from revealing to me that he&#8217;d had a minor stroke because my mother thought it would upset me. Another time, he was in hospital with bleeding and suspected cancer and it was 4 days before I could reach either of them on the phone: I had no idea why nobody was answering. She&#8217;d been at home most of that time, but thought it best simply not to get in touch with me at all.</p>
<p>The grandchildren thing was always different for me, because of my mother&#8217;s inability to communicate things in a straightforward way. She always impressed on me how much of a burden her sister&#8217;s grandchildren were to her - &#8220;How can they [my cousins] DO that to her, going and having more??&#8221; - and gave every indication that she thought I wasn&#8217;t a capable adult and that children would likely never be part of the picture anyway. When I got pregnant, my grandmother whispered to me when my mum was out of the room: &#8220;Your mother&#8217;s always moaning, &#8216;They&#8217;re never going to give me any grandchildren&#8217; &#8230;!&#8221;</p>
<p>Anyway &#8230; Now my mum is recovered from the pneumonia, it seems she&#8217;s back to her normal controlling, overbearing self, but I&#8217;m thinking maybe that will change as she and my dad grow less able to do stuff for themselves. It will HAVE to change, eventually. And relying on others, even family, is my father&#8217;s worst nightmare: when I was a kid, he used to tell me he wanted me to &#8220;put a bullet in his head&#8221; when he reached the age of 60. He is 80 now. <img src='http://www.befogged.co.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Oh boy, am I in for a ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://www.befogged.co.uk/2009/10/on-daughtering/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how you feel, when mum was poorly last year I remember driving away from the hospital not sure what the outcome would be thinking how for the first time in my life I truly felt like a grown up (and being very scared at the prospect), and I saw my dad change from "silly old dad" to someone who could cope (not the cartoon image I had of him in my head).

I think our parents give us the security of our childhood and are in general constant figures in our life (whether we like it or not!), I still turn to mine for advice and seek approval from them, although I'd like to think that they do the same from me.

It's surprising when our parents turn out to be ordinary people isn't it?

And I'm trying really hard not to comment on the grandchildren thing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how you feel, when mum was poorly last year I remember driving away from the hospital not sure what the outcome would be thinking how for the first time in my life I truly felt like a grown up (and being very scared at the prospect), and I saw my dad change from &#8220;silly old dad&#8221; to someone who could cope (not the cartoon image I had of him in my head).</p>
<p>I think our parents give us the security of our childhood and are in general constant figures in our life (whether we like it or not!), I still turn to mine for advice and seek approval from them, although I&#8217;d like to think that they do the same from me.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s surprising when our parents turn out to be ordinary people isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m trying really hard not to comment on the grandchildren thing!</p>
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		<title>By: Daisy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daisy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Oct 2009 17:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is SO scary when that happens - it happened for me when I was 25 (although it happened for my Dad and his parents when he was just 20, so at least I got a few more years!). It does change your whole outlook on life. I find it very bizarre sometimes, sitting at work talking with colleagues who are a good 10-15 years older than me and to whom this hasn't happened yet - their attitudes etc are so very different to mine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is SO scary when that happens - it happened for me when I was 25 (although it happened for my Dad and his parents when he was just 20, so at least I got a few more years!). It does change your whole outlook on life. I find it very bizarre sometimes, sitting at work talking with colleagues who are a good 10-15 years older than me and to whom this hasn&#8217;t happened yet - their attitudes etc are so very different to mine!</p>
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		<title>By: Angpang</title>
		<link>http://www.befogged.co.uk/2009/10/on-daughtering/#comment-138</link>
		<dc:creator>Angpang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wondeful post that must ring true for so many people in their 30s and 40s. Glad you have seen the positive in it, in that you are closer to your mum and dad in some ways. 

I recall a shift too in my late teens when my mum started to confide in me with her worries, and my dad started to argue with me on politics and other stuff, and crucially conceded I had a point a few times. They had allowed me to grow, which I must remember when my children get to that age. 

My mother also said when her mother died it suddenly dawned on her that she was now head of the family, and she found that so scary. Though she is such a capable person, a part of her still wanted a parent around for support. I suspect I will be the same. 

Thanks for this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wondeful post that must ring true for so many people in their 30s and 40s. Glad you have seen the positive in it, in that you are closer to your mum and dad in some ways. </p>
<p>I recall a shift too in my late teens when my mum started to confide in me with her worries, and my dad started to argue with me on politics and other stuff, and crucially conceded I had a point a few times. They had allowed me to grow, which I must remember when my children get to that age. </p>
<p>My mother also said when her mother died it suddenly dawned on her that she was now head of the family, and she found that so scary. Though she is such a capable person, a part of her still wanted a parent around for support. I suspect I will be the same. </p>
<p>Thanks for this.</p>
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		<title>By: Earthenwitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Earthenwitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 07:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and it's a funny thing when it does. I'm glad the closeness is making up for the shift; interacting with parents on equal terms can be challenging, but I think it makes for greater honesty, as you say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and it&#8217;s a funny thing when it does. I&#8217;m glad the closeness is making up for the shift; interacting with parents on equal terms can be challenging, but I think it makes for greater honesty, as you say.</p>
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		<title>By: serenebabe</title>
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		<dc:creator>serenebabe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 02:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. I could've written this. Or, rather, you've written so well what I've been thinking about lately. Sometimes I just think it shouldn't be allowed, parents aging.

This was beautiful. Thanks for writing it and sharing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. I could&#8217;ve written this. Or, rather, you&#8217;ve written so well what I&#8217;ve been thinking about lately. Sometimes I just think it shouldn&#8217;t be allowed, parents aging.</p>
<p>This was beautiful. Thanks for writing it and sharing it.</p>
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